Odd Things I Observe

[Arks]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
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It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
Just curious Undersea. If all your bookings will go through your online bookings and you won't answer your phone, how will you police your DNB list? ResKey won't block specific guests, don't know if that s available for other ones. Will you cancel their reservation after they've already gotten confirmation? Will you follow up with an email asking for something above and beyond your regular booking requests?
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It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking.

I've done that for years. ALL calls go to voicemail with the message that the cheapest rate can be found at my website. I only return calls I want to return. Life is good!

 

[happykeeper]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

We have two groups that comes for the same thing every year so they know each other and have been coming for years. When one couple of the group can't come for some reason the rest mourns that it won't be the same. One group sent the poor couple a wish-you-were-here card which they all signed. The first breakfast is like a reunion with hugs all around. They also welcome newcomers and give them tips and they leave the inn as part of the "family".
Our groups tip mostly. One family that book the whole house for a week just throws a couple hundred dollars on top of their bill....then some of them leave a tip in the room, too. We have a lot of yacht club members who comes for a day here and there before the big events which we give special discount price. We found that Air Bs guests don't tip.
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Our groups tip mostly.

Good for them. There's an Italian restaurant across the street from my place. I've noticed that every time I eat there with a group of good friends or relatives, few leave a tip. I think it's that we (they) are just so busy enjoying each other's company and telling old stories, they get up and leave without thinking of the tip.I often speak up as we get up to leave, reminding them to tip!!
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You need friends with deeper pockets!

 

[Generic]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
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From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip.

I'm not sure if you meant this in regard to my comments or Jon's.
Tips are not included in the price of the room. But that's an excellent idea. However, if I do that then I'm responsible for collecting the appropriate withholding taxes.
Minimum wage workers in hospitality (hotels, food service) do expect tips. It's how they survive. Not that we pay minimum wage. But we certainly don't pay a living wage. So tips help.
If it's in regard to Jon's comment that a tip would be welcome if he shops for the guest, he's right, it would be nice but most guests think anything they ask for is part of our job to provide. Not joking. We don't get asked for a lot but we've never been tipped for anything 'extra' that we've done.
I've had guests ask me to wash their car. Seriously. Do their laundry. Take care of their pets or their kids. These are all chargeable services, to be sure, but you've also got to have the time.
.

We do laundry... it takes a bit of time, but the charge is definitely worth it, especially since my laundry detergent is 8c a load, we still have cheap electricity around here and we don't have a water bill. The thing that takes the longest is folding. We tell them to put everything in a basket and put their socks and stuff ready to load because we don't go through it and we aren't responsible for damage. They come back and it's all folded and they are happy as clams. Never argue about price. Biggest question we ask is if they want softener (some people don't like scent) and that's that. And if they don't like our price, we point them at the laundromat where they can spend 3 hours doing it.
If you want me to do things, then slipping me a few bucks for it is expected, otherwise I will mark up the costs or keep the savings. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my time.. doesn't need my time. We've done special runs for guests before and never have they balked at tipping for the extra service or expected it's included.
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No water bill?
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.

 

[April]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip.

I'm not sure if you meant this in regard to my comments or Jon's.
Tips are not included in the price of the room. But that's an excellent idea. However, if I do that then I'm responsible for collecting the appropriate withholding taxes.
Minimum wage workers in hospitality (hotels, food service) do expect tips. It's how they survive. Not that we pay minimum wage. But we certainly don't pay a living wage. So tips help.
If it's in regard to Jon's comment that a tip would be welcome if he shops for the guest, he's right, it would be nice but most guests think anything they ask for is part of our job to provide. Not joking. We don't get asked for a lot but we've never been tipped for anything 'extra' that we've done.
I've had guests ask me to wash their car. Seriously. Do their laundry. Take care of their pets or their kids. These are all chargeable services, to be sure, but you've also got to have the time.
.

We do laundry... it takes a bit of time, but the charge is definitely worth it, especially since my laundry detergent is 8c a load, we still have cheap electricity around here and we don't have a water bill. The thing that takes the longest is folding. We tell them to put everything in a basket and put their socks and stuff ready to load because we don't go through it and we aren't responsible for damage. They come back and it's all folded and they are happy as clams. Never argue about price. Biggest question we ask is if they want softener (some people don't like scent) and that's that. And if they don't like our price, we point them at the laundromat where they can spend 3 hours doing it.
If you want me to do things, then slipping me a few bucks for it is expected, otherwise I will mark up the costs or keep the savings. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my time.. doesn't need my time. We've done special runs for guests before and never have they balked at tipping for the extra service or expected it's included.
.

No water bill?
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.
.

Our water bill went up 10% in 2013, 9 % last year and 8% this year. With all this laundry, multiple showers, dishwashing and watering the garden (we are on the hill with sandy soil) our bill is going up and up. Lucky you.

 

[undersea]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip.

I'm not sure if you meant this in regard to my comments or Jon's.
Tips are not included in the price of the room. But that's an excellent idea. However, if I do that then I'm responsible for collecting the appropriate withholding taxes.
Minimum wage workers in hospitality (hotels, food service) do expect tips. It's how they survive. Not that we pay minimum wage. But we certainly don't pay a living wage. So tips help.
If it's in regard to Jon's comment that a tip would be welcome if he shops for the guest, he's right, it would be nice but most guests think anything they ask for is part of our job to provide. Not joking. We don't get asked for a lot but we've never been tipped for anything 'extra' that we've done.
I've had guests ask me to wash their car. Seriously. Do their laundry. Take care of their pets or their kids. These are all chargeable services, to be sure, but you've also got to have the time.
.

We do laundry... it takes a bit of time, but the charge is definitely worth it, especially since my laundry detergent is 8c a load, we still have cheap electricity around here and we don't have a water bill. The thing that takes the longest is folding. We tell them to put everything in a basket and put their socks and stuff ready to load because we don't go through it and we aren't responsible for damage. They come back and it's all folded and they are happy as clams. Never argue about price. Biggest question we ask is if they want softener (some people don't like scent) and that's that. And if they don't like our price, we point them at the laundromat where they can spend 3 hours doing it.
If you want me to do things, then slipping me a few bucks for it is expected, otherwise I will mark up the costs or keep the savings. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my time.. doesn't need my time. We've done special runs for guests before and never have they balked at tipping for the extra service or expected it's included.
.

No water bill?
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.
.

Our water bill went up 10% in 2013, 9 % last year and 8% this year. With all this laundry, multiple showers, dishwashing and watering the garden (we are on the hill with sandy soil) our bill is going up and up. Lucky you.
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I have a high water bill for a 6-family rental property I own. I installed 1/2 gpm aerators on all sinks ($3 each from internet), have the 1.6 gpf toilets, 1.5 gpm showerheads. I removed the hose so they cannot wash cars. It had a laundry room, which I closed when I bought it in 2012.
Dishwashers and front load washers can be selected for water savings.
Also saves on water heating bill.

 

[Morticia]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip.

I'm not sure if you meant this in regard to my comments or Jon's.
Tips are not included in the price of the room. But that's an excellent idea. However, if I do that then I'm responsible for collecting the appropriate withholding taxes.
Minimum wage workers in hospitality (hotels, food service) do expect tips. It's how they survive. Not that we pay minimum wage. But we certainly don't pay a living wage. So tips help.
If it's in regard to Jon's comment that a tip would be welcome if he shops for the guest, he's right, it would be nice but most guests think anything they ask for is part of our job to provide. Not joking. We don't get asked for a lot but we've never been tipped for anything 'extra' that we've done.
I've had guests ask me to wash their car. Seriously. Do their laundry. Take care of their pets or their kids. These are all chargeable services, to be sure, but you've also got to have the time.
.

We do laundry... it takes a bit of time, but the charge is definitely worth it, especially since my laundry detergent is 8c a load, we still have cheap electricity around here and we don't have a water bill. The thing that takes the longest is folding. We tell them to put everything in a basket and put their socks and stuff ready to load because we don't go through it and we aren't responsible for damage. They come back and it's all folded and they are happy as clams. Never argue about price. Biggest question we ask is if they want softener (some people don't like scent) and that's that. And if they don't like our price, we point them at the laundromat where they can spend 3 hours doing it.
If you want me to do things, then slipping me a few bucks for it is expected, otherwise I will mark up the costs or keep the savings. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my time.. doesn't need my time. We've done special runs for guests before and never have they balked at tipping for the extra service or expected it's included.
.

No water bill?
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.

That doesn't make sense. They can export Dasani water in bottles but not unbottled water? It's a good plan. Otherwise all your water would be going to SoCal right now.
Nice to have a resource so abundant you don't have to pay for it. Really. It's very nice.

 

[Arks]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip.

I'm not sure if you meant this in regard to my comments or Jon's.
Tips are not included in the price of the room. But that's an excellent idea. However, if I do that then I'm responsible for collecting the appropriate withholding taxes.
Minimum wage workers in hospitality (hotels, food service) do expect tips. It's how they survive. Not that we pay minimum wage. But we certainly don't pay a living wage. So tips help.
If it's in regard to Jon's comment that a tip would be welcome if he shops for the guest, he's right, it would be nice but most guests think anything they ask for is part of our job to provide. Not joking. We don't get asked for a lot but we've never been tipped for anything 'extra' that we've done.
I've had guests ask me to wash their car. Seriously. Do their laundry. Take care of their pets or their kids. These are all chargeable services, to be sure, but you've also got to have the time.
.

We do laundry... it takes a bit of time, but the charge is definitely worth it, especially since my laundry detergent is 8c a load, we still have cheap electricity around here and we don't have a water bill. The thing that takes the longest is folding. We tell them to put everything in a basket and put their socks and stuff ready to load because we don't go through it and we aren't responsible for damage. They come back and it's all folded and they are happy as clams. Never argue about price. Biggest question we ask is if they want softener (some people don't like scent) and that's that. And if they don't like our price, we point them at the laundromat where they can spend 3 hours doing it.
If you want me to do things, then slipping me a few bucks for it is expected, otherwise I will mark up the costs or keep the savings. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my time.. doesn't need my time. We've done special runs for guests before and never have they balked at tipping for the extra service or expected it's included.
.

No water bill?
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.

That doesn't make sense. They can export Dasani water in bottles but not unbottled water? It's a good plan. Otherwise all your water would be going to SoCal right now.
Nice to have a resource so abundant you don't have to pay for it. Really. It's very nice.
.

Nice to have a resource so abundant you don't have to pay for it. Really. It's very nice.

We have more water than we can use, but it's sure not free here!
I've been wishing we could pipeline our excess water to Texas in exchange for oil, but the recent rain there has spoiled my little plan.

 

[Generic]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip.

I'm not sure if you meant this in regard to my comments or Jon's.
Tips are not included in the price of the room. But that's an excellent idea. However, if I do that then I'm responsible for collecting the appropriate withholding taxes.
Minimum wage workers in hospitality (hotels, food service) do expect tips. It's how they survive. Not that we pay minimum wage. But we certainly don't pay a living wage. So tips help.
If it's in regard to Jon's comment that a tip would be welcome if he shops for the guest, he's right, it would be nice but most guests think anything they ask for is part of our job to provide. Not joking. We don't get asked for a lot but we've never been tipped for anything 'extra' that we've done.
I've had guests ask me to wash their car. Seriously. Do their laundry. Take care of their pets or their kids. These are all chargeable services, to be sure, but you've also got to have the time.
.

We do laundry... it takes a bit of time, but the charge is definitely worth it, especially since my laundry detergent is 8c a load, we still have cheap electricity around here and we don't have a water bill. The thing that takes the longest is folding. We tell them to put everything in a basket and put their socks and stuff ready to load because we don't go through it and we aren't responsible for damage. They come back and it's all folded and they are happy as clams. Never argue about price. Biggest question we ask is if they want softener (some people don't like scent) and that's that. And if they don't like our price, we point them at the laundromat where they can spend 3 hours doing it.
If you want me to do things, then slipping me a few bucks for it is expected, otherwise I will mark up the costs or keep the savings. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my time.. doesn't need my time. We've done special runs for guests before and never have they balked at tipping for the extra service or expected it's included.
.

No water bill?
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.

That doesn't make sense. They can export Dasani water in bottles but not unbottled water? It's a good plan. Otherwise all your water would be going to SoCal right now.
Nice to have a resource so abundant you don't have to pay for it. Really. It's very nice.
.

That doesn't make sense. They can export Dasani water in bottles but not unbottled water? It's a good plan. Otherwise all your water would be going to SoCal right now.
Nice to have a resource so abundant you don't have to pay for it. Really. It's very nice.

It's the only way that we would sign NAFTA. You can buy all the water you want in tiny little bottles, but no other way.
As for SoCal, honestly, I think the states around it should charge them MORE and tell them to start to reuse their waste water. They are using 90% of their wastewater to water their plants in one country.

 

[Iris]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

 

[gillumhouse]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever ... those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip. Especially for new guests, expectations that I pick up food, liquor, make event arrangements, negotiate between members of a party will not happening. You want an extra service, it will go on the bill, at a price that makes my time worthwhile. Else, "here is the number and address of store XYZ; good luck!"
It is the same reason I plan to let all calls go to voicemail - with the notice about discounted pricing is for online booking. I do not plan to give tours, recommendations to non-guests, charitable donations, robocalls, etc. that are time/energy stealers.
I cannot do anything about trash or respect level. If bad enough, they will go on the DNB list.
As you said, ROI. People like to book, and then walk off with your supplies, be hard on the place or the owner, etc. Expected extra services are down the same path. I will make provide standard greetings, recommendations, attend to their needs. Other businesses charge for significant extra services - "upgrades." We should not always be different.
Several times, my tenants try to negotiate delaying the rent, due to money problems. One told me a few months ago, that since I was not a corporation, he thought he could slide a couple months. Like, my mortgage, utilities, taxes and insurance will let ME slide a couple months? Best policy is the one in your policies and contract. Every time I bent for tenants or prospects, I always regretted it.
.

From many conversations on this forum, I concluded that the pricing of the room(s) reflects the service given, without expecting a tip.

I'm not sure if you meant this in regard to my comments or Jon's.
Tips are not included in the price of the room. But that's an excellent idea. However, if I do that then I'm responsible for collecting the appropriate withholding taxes.
Minimum wage workers in hospitality (hotels, food service) do expect tips. It's how they survive. Not that we pay minimum wage. But we certainly don't pay a living wage. So tips help.
If it's in regard to Jon's comment that a tip would be welcome if he shops for the guest, he's right, it would be nice but most guests think anything they ask for is part of our job to provide. Not joking. We don't get asked for a lot but we've never been tipped for anything 'extra' that we've done.
I've had guests ask me to wash their car. Seriously. Do their laundry. Take care of their pets or their kids. These are all chargeable services, to be sure, but you've also got to have the time.
.

We do laundry... it takes a bit of time, but the charge is definitely worth it, especially since my laundry detergent is 8c a load, we still have cheap electricity around here and we don't have a water bill. The thing that takes the longest is folding. We tell them to put everything in a basket and put their socks and stuff ready to load because we don't go through it and we aren't responsible for damage. They come back and it's all folded and they are happy as clams. Never argue about price. Biggest question we ask is if they want softener (some people don't like scent) and that's that. And if they don't like our price, we point them at the laundromat where they can spend 3 hours doing it.
If you want me to do things, then slipping me a few bucks for it is expected, otherwise I will mark up the costs or keep the savings. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my time.. doesn't need my time. We've done special runs for guests before and never have they balked at tipping for the extra service or expected it's included.
.

No water bill?
.

Nope. All the water is free. No water meters at all. They talked about adding them for big businesses, but nope. All that Dasani bottled here and no water bill. (And we pretty much take water for granted, it's also our source of electricity around here.)
BUT... we do have a treaty that forbids it being exported.
.

Our water bill went up 10% in 2013, 9 % last year and 8% this year. With all this laundry, multiple showers, dishwashing and watering the garden (we are on the hill with sandy soil) our bill is going up and up. Lucky you.
.

Our water is actually cheap - even with the 11% increase that just went in. The sewer bill is about twice what the water bill is. The sewer bill is determined by how much water is used but is charged at its own rate.

 

[Morticia]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)

 

[Iris]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)

Guests have been spoiled to the point where it's almost unreasonable. Have a martini, put up your feet. They will move on soon

 

[Morticia]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)

Guests have been spoiled to the point where it's almost unreasonable. Have a martini, put up your feet. They will move on soon
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)

Guests have been spoiled to the point where it's almost unreasonable. Have a martini, put up your feet. They will move on soon

You're on!

 

[Generic]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

There is bread, butter, jam, cereal and milk. Enjoy!
Why do you bother with a list... if what you are making doesn't fit their list, then let them fend for themselves with the staples.

 

[undersea]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

Amazing how much you learn from reading. Also, getting confirmations!
My starting breakfast strategy (food issues) is essentially eliminate triggers and offer 1 alternate:
==> Remove top 10 disliked foods (there are a few lists out there)
==> Remove/Have alternative for top allergens (peanuts, tree nuts, dairy, eggs, wheat, soy, fish, shellfish)
==> Keep calories in mind for the Weight Watcher crowd.
==> Keep health in mind for the naturalists. Keep out most processed foods.
==> Keep green in mind. Organic, if not insane cost. Locally sourced, as possible.
==> Not live far from NY (Jewish/Muslims), not strategy yet for Kosher or Halal. Obviously, sausage/bacon is an issue!
With dairy & egg alternates, I also am helping vegans and lactose intolerant. And Paleo, for dairy.
With GF wheat alternate (corn, etc), I also placate people with gluten and nongluten problems as well as Paleo.
It is my intent to greatly reduce the don't eat/allergic issue and appeal to a broad spectrum with menu planning.
For those who fall outside these strategies, as many say here "Chef's choice."

 

[Breakfast Diva]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

Amazing how much you learn from reading. Also, getting confirmations!
My starting breakfast strategy (food issues) is essentially eliminate triggers and offer 1 alternate:
==> Remove top 10 disliked foods (there are a few lists out there)
==> Remove/Have alternative for top allergens (peanuts, tree nuts, dairy, eggs, wheat, soy, fish, shellfish)
==> Keep calories in mind for the Weight Watcher crowd.
==> Keep health in mind for the naturalists. Keep out most processed foods.
==> Keep green in mind. Organic, if not insane cost. Locally sourced, as possible.
==> Not live far from NY (Jewish/Muslims), not strategy yet for Kosher or Halal. Obviously, sausage/bacon is an issue!
With dairy & egg alternates, I also am helping vegans and lactose intolerant. And Paleo, for dairy.
With GF wheat alternate (corn, etc), I also placate people with gluten and nongluten problems as well as Paleo.
It is my intent to greatly reduce the don't eat/allergic issue and appeal to a broad spectrum with menu planning.
For those who fall outside these strategies, as many say here "Chef's choice."
.

Give us a mock up of one of your breakfasts.

 

[Morticia]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

There is bread, butter, jam, cereal and milk. Enjoy!
Why do you bother with a list... if what you are making doesn't fit their list, then let them fend for themselves with the staples.
.

There is bread, butter, jam, cereal and milk. Enjoy!
Why do you bother with a list... if what you are making doesn't fit their list, then let them fend for themselves with the staples.

I didn't ask for a list, I was merely reminding them what they said in the rez: No this, no that. That's when the list started. I do say, "Ah, we have cereal. And I can make you toast."

 

[Morticia]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

Amazing how much you learn from reading. Also, getting confirmations!
My starting breakfast strategy (food issues) is essentially eliminate triggers and offer 1 alternate:
==> Remove top 10 disliked foods (there are a few lists out there)
==> Remove/Have alternative for top allergens (peanuts, tree nuts, dairy, eggs, wheat, soy, fish, shellfish)
==> Keep calories in mind for the Weight Watcher crowd.
==> Keep health in mind for the naturalists. Keep out most processed foods.
==> Keep green in mind. Organic, if not insane cost. Locally sourced, as possible.
==> Not live far from NY (Jewish/Muslims), not strategy yet for Kosher or Halal. Obviously, sausage/bacon is an issue!
With dairy & egg alternates, I also am helping vegans and lactose intolerant. And Paleo, for dairy.
With GF wheat alternate (corn, etc), I also placate people with gluten and nongluten problems as well as Paleo.
It is my intent to greatly reduce the don't eat/allergic issue and appeal to a broad spectrum with menu planning.
For those who fall outside these strategies, as many say here "Chef's choice."
.

It's a dance you learn to do. I have two left feet. We'll never get breakfast right for every person who comes thru the door. We're too big and too small. Too big to cater to every diet/whim and too small to have the ingredients to make every guest happy everyday.
Like happy has the target market he wants and he feeds them according to what he has decided to make. The guests select him for that breakfast model. Our guests don't even bother looking to see what we serve. They just show up and expect to get what he's serving.

 

[undersea]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

Amazing how much you learn from reading. Also, getting confirmations!
My starting breakfast strategy (food issues) is essentially eliminate triggers and offer 1 alternate:
==> Remove top 10 disliked foods (there are a few lists out there)
==> Remove/Have alternative for top allergens (peanuts, tree nuts, dairy, eggs, wheat, soy, fish, shellfish)
==> Keep calories in mind for the Weight Watcher crowd.
==> Keep health in mind for the naturalists. Keep out most processed foods.
==> Keep green in mind. Organic, if not insane cost. Locally sourced, as possible.
==> Not live far from NY (Jewish/Muslims), not strategy yet for Kosher or Halal. Obviously, sausage/bacon is an issue!
With dairy & egg alternates, I also am helping vegans and lactose intolerant. And Paleo, for dairy.
With GF wheat alternate (corn, etc), I also placate people with gluten and nongluten problems as well as Paleo.
It is my intent to greatly reduce the don't eat/allergic issue and appeal to a broad spectrum with menu planning.
For those who fall outside these strategies, as many say here "Chef's choice."
.

Give us a mock up of one of your breakfasts.
.

Well, off the top of the head, here is a layout. I have not researched all the substitutes, but have attempted to follow what I said above. The only thing below that is shaky would be almond/coconut milk, as there are still some people with allergies, but not as much as regular milk.
Beverages (all triggers substituted)
Homemade almond milk, kefir drink with berries, berry smoothie, fresh squeezed OJ, herbal tea choice, coffee with various cream choices.
Main Course
Bacon or homemade vegan sausage
Strata (ingredients: margarine, small tomatoes,sliced zucchini, cornbread crubs (below), shredded Swiss cheese substitute, ground flax seed or banana, homemade almond/coconut milk, Italian parsley, basil, fresh chives, garlic salt, black pepper
Homemade Breads (trigger ingredients substituted):
Gluten Free Corn bread, croissants or cider donuts
SAMPLE: Cornbread ingredients: margarine, splenda/sugar mix, dairy free sour cream, homemade coconut/almond milk, ground flax seed or banana, gluten free flour blend, yellow cornmeal, gluten-free baking powder, salt
Also offering:
fresh fruit, homemade jams, etc.

 

[Iris]

There can be several things going on here - guests who pay more expect more, those weekends are a certain type of guest because of a certain event in town, you're doing more than usual and it feels like you're not getting an improved ROI on the experience.
We have certain weekends that bring in a group of people who are not traveling together but are here for the same purpose. They sometimes take a lot out of us and they never tip, ever. Same group, almost the same guests came for 5 years. Yes, they repeated for 5 years, so good for us, they liked it here. But of all the weekends in the summer, those 2 were the ones with the most trash, the least respect for us and the entire town and zero tips.
That particular group is no longer coming and we don't really even get anyone from that cohort any longer. If we do, it's one room so the other guests dampen down the 'group mentality'. I miss the individual guests, and often wonder what they're up to, but I don't miss them as a whole.
Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway..

Otherwise, overall, it's a certain type of guest that causes the grief - the guest who really wanted to stay at the fancy hotel but waited too long to make the rez; the guest who only gets 2 weeks' vacation and it's raining during their one week here; the guest who waited too long to make a rez anywhere and now is 'stuck' with a B&B instead of getting a nice hotel.
That doesn't always come out on the phone but sometimes it does. I can suggest options they may not have found on their own, but many of them are worried there's 'no place to stay' and they book anyway.

And those are the kind of guests that cause me the most heartache. I do take it to heart if what we offer is not what the guest really wanted. It is bad for my mental health and I have learned to send them to other places that I know are better for them. I don't like to see unhappy faces staring at other guests, trying to bring them "to their side" (I think too much)
But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.
.

But occasionally someone slips in and I wish I could make them leave.

I am wondering about one that is here now. Two friends traveling together - one is 'hey let's try this' and the other is 'I don't want to do anything unusual.'
Started off with absolutely refuses to eat anything with these ingredients (list here) and then kept adding to it as I did the check-in. (Not allergies, refuses to eat because, well, who knows why.)
.

Amazing how much you learn from reading. Also, getting confirmations!
My starting breakfast strategy (food issues) is essentially eliminate triggers and offer 1 alternate:
==> Remove top 10 disliked foods (there are a few lists out there)
==> Remove/Have alternative for top allergens (peanuts, tree nuts, dairy, eggs, wheat, soy, fish, shellfish)
==> Keep calories in mind for the Weight Watcher crowd.
==> Keep health in mind for the naturalists. Keep out most processed foods.
==> Keep green in mind. Organic, if not insane cost. Locally sourced, as possible.
==> Not live far from NY (Jewish/Muslims), not strategy yet for Kosher or Halal. Obviously, sausage/bacon is an issue!
With dairy & egg alternates, I also am helping vegans and lactose intolerant. And Paleo, for dairy.
With GF wheat alternate (corn, etc), I also placate people with gluten and nongluten problems as well as Paleo.
It is my intent to greatly reduce the don't eat/allergic issue and appeal to a broad spectrum with menu planning.
For those who fall outside these strategies, as many say here "Chef's choice."
.

Give us a mock up of one of your breakfasts.
.

Well, off the top of the head, here is a layout. I have not researched all the substitutes, but have attempted to follow what I said above. The only thing below that is shaky would be almond/coconut milk, as there are still some people with allergies, but not as much as regular milk.
Beverages (all triggers substituted)
Homemade almond milk, kefir drink with berries, berry smoothie, fresh squeezed OJ, herbal tea choice, coffee with various cream choices.
Main Course
Bacon or homemade vegan sausage
Strata (ingredients: margarine, small tomatoes,sliced zucchini, cornbread crubs (below), shredded Swiss cheese substitute, ground flax seed or banana, homemade almond/coconut milk, Italian parsley, basil, fresh chives, garlic salt, black pepper
Homemade Breads (trigger ingredients substituted):
Gluten Free Corn bread, croissants or cider donuts
SAMPLE: Cornbread ingredients: margarine, splenda/sugar mix, dairy free sour cream, homemade coconut/almond milk, ground flax seed or banana, gluten free flour blend, yellow cornmeal, gluten-free baking powder, salt
Also offering:
fresh fruit, homemade jams, etc.
.

Well, off the top of the head, here is a layout. I have not researched all the substitutes, but have attempted to follow what I said above. The only thing below that is shaky would be almond/coconut milk, as there are still some people with allergies, but not as much as regular milk.
Beverages (all triggers substituted)
Homemade almond milk, kefir drink with berries, berry smoothie, fresh squeezed OJ, herbal tea choice, coffee with various cream choices.
Main Course
Bacon or homemade vegan sausage
Strata (ingredients: margarine, small tomatoes,sliced zucchini, cornbread crubs (below), shredded Swiss cheese substitute, ground flax seed or banana, homemade almond/coconut milk, Italian parsley, basil, fresh chives, garlic salt, black pepper
Homemade Breads (trigger ingredients substituted):
Gluten Free Corn bread, croissants or cider donuts
SAMPLE: Cornbread ingredients: margarine, splenda/sugar mix, dairy free sour cream, homemade coconut/almond milk, ground flax seed or banana, gluten free flour blend, yellow cornmeal, gluten-free baking powder, salt
Also offering:
fresh fruit, homemade jams, etc.

I must say, hats off to all of you who feed their guests. This is incredible. What are people thinking having all these perceived or real food issues?
I would have a fit.