Can I trust you?

[Iris]

See I am a bit wary of this as we are a younger couple 32 and 29 respectively - I worry as I get enough people who can't believe I am the owner or can possibly manage etc without putting them off already -
What do people think?.

See I am a bit wary of this as we are a younger couple 32 and 29 respectively - I worry as I get enough people who can't believe I am the owner or can possibly manage etc without putting them off already -
What do people think?

That's been your experience so I wouldn't put a photo, but a blurb about your 10+ years of experience in hospitality and maybe some interests you have outside the biz would work. Something personal.
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Haha, that was our experience at 39. Guests would ask us if we had a room in our big house. Not believing that we were not just employed here...

 

[Arks]

Just use your mum's pic.

 

[swaapc]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

 

[OnTheShore]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.

 

[Joey Camb]

See I am a bit wary of this as we are a younger couple 32 and 29 respectively - I worry as I get enough people who can't believe I am the owner or can possibly manage etc without putting them off already -
What do people think?.

How about a picture of the bunnies?
.

If I could just get the jiggers to stand still for more than 2 seconds that would be super
Believe me the "where is your mother dear?" etc wears a bit thin!

 

[undersea]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
.

As they said it was "prominent", I guess they mean that the valuable real estate (on the site) it took up didn't justify its occasional use. There is only so much you can put onto a page, and it should all be high value.
Perhaps the page could be pushed down to a lower place?

 

[swaapc]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
.

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.

There are a number of reasons for this:
1) Design gurus tell me you can't have three deep navigation menus any longer and I couldn't find any good Bootstrap navigation code that supported 3 deep navigation. So you have to either be very clever (I am not) or start using tabs which I did.
2) and this is the bigy - you can't really have more than 10 navigation items. Well you can but in a responsive design it all starts becoming a bit iffy as to whether the user can see all these items on all devices (Mobile Android being the biggest problem). I think I worked out (just by experimenting) that the optimum is about 8 items. I have used 10 with the least important to the far right hand side (or bottom of the stack for mobile) and just assume a % of people will never see them.
I am sure there are ways round these problems but I couldn't find it without a lot of work. I would be very interest if someone has a solution to this as there are a number of navigation items I would love to add.

 

[JBloggs]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

 

[JBloggs]

See I am a bit wary of this as we are a younger couple 32 and 29 respectively - I worry as I get enough people who can't believe I am the owner or can possibly manage etc without putting them off already -
What do people think?.

How about a picture of the bunnies?
.

If I could just get the jiggers to stand still for more than 2 seconds that would be super
Believe me the "where is your mother dear?" etc wears a bit thin!
.

If I could just get the jiggers to stand still for more than 2 seconds that would be super
Believe me the "where is your mother dear?" etc wears a bit thin!

I get it Cambs you run around in a singlet, flip flops and your hair in a pony tail! haha You are so adorable.

 

[JBloggs]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
.

As they said it was "prominent", I guess they mean that the valuable real estate (on the site) it took up didn't justify its occasional use. There is only so much you can put onto a page, and it should all be high value.
Perhaps the page could be pushed down to a lower place?
.

As they said it was "prominent", I guess they mean that the valuable real estate (on the site) it took up didn't justify its occasional use. There is only so much you can put onto a page, and it should all be high value.
Perhaps the page could be pushed down to a lower place?

Agreed, and it shouldn't be on the home page. We can have pages and pages and should. For those who want to read more they can for those who want the facts only and reserve their room, they can. It's a win win.

 

[Morticia]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
.

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.

There are a number of reasons for this:
1) Design gurus tell me you can't have three deep navigation menus any longer and I couldn't find any good Bootstrap navigation code that supported 3 deep navigation. So you have to either be very clever (I am not) or start using tabs which I did.
2) and this is the bigy - you can't really have more than 10 navigation items. Well you can but in a responsive design it all starts becoming a bit iffy as to whether the user can see all these items on all devices (Mobile Android being the biggest problem). I think I worked out (just by experimenting) that the optimum is about 8 items. I have used 10 with the least important to the far right hand side (or bottom of the stack for mobile) and just assume a % of people will never see them.
I am sure there are ways round these problems but I couldn't find it without a lot of work. I would be very interest if someone has a solution to this as there are a number of navigation items I would love to add.
.

Why not add a page about yourselves, for those who don't read the blog, under misc?
My about page is rarely viewed. It's there for those people who need this info. It's different for a B&B. They're in my house. I'm feeding them. They want to get a look at me. Hate to say it, but to judge my character.
Do I look like someone they might want to spend time with? Reliable? Clean? Am I drinking, smoking, dressed oddly? (Oddly being open to interpretation.) Who else lives here? Am I married?
Mostly, tho, I think the question is: do I look like them? If I don't, can they deal with it?
BTW, I rarely look at about pages.

 

[Morticia]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
.

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.

There are a number of reasons for this:
1) Design gurus tell me you can't have three deep navigation menus any longer and I couldn't find any good Bootstrap navigation code that supported 3 deep navigation. So you have to either be very clever (I am not) or start using tabs which I did.
2) and this is the bigy - you can't really have more than 10 navigation items. Well you can but in a responsive design it all starts becoming a bit iffy as to whether the user can see all these items on all devices (Mobile Android being the biggest problem). I think I worked out (just by experimenting) that the optimum is about 8 items. I have used 10 with the least important to the far right hand side (or bottom of the stack for mobile) and just assume a % of people will never see them.
I am sure there are ways round these problems but I couldn't find it without a lot of work. I would be very interest if someone has a solution to this as there are a number of navigation items I would love to add.
.

I guess I'm at a loss for the way bootstrap works. Is it similar to WordPress? Just trying to understand the terminology.
And what you mean by 3 levels.
I'm thinking of my WP based site. I have the 8 top level navigation buttons (drop down) that then have up to 15 second level pages.
Why would you need to go to a third level?
Is it possible to add additional pages under one of your top level tabs? Say you add a new cottage, you add that to your accommodations tab, right?
I'm going off to look at your site non-mobile. Then maybe what I think will be clearer!
Ok, looking at your site, it's laid out similarly to what a WP site looks like. You do have the drop downs so you could add another page in there to show who you are, if you want.

 

[swaapc]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

.

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

Our old web page had almost 150 pages. The site ranked incredibly well until Penguin and Panda and then over the following years it starting slipping into oblivion. I therefore decided to change strategy altogether and instead of writing web pages for Google I would write them for possible guests. No guest ever needed 150 pages and obviously only a hand full ranked well. The new site has about 20 (plus tabs on pages). I would be more than happy to add more pages (maybe not up to the 150 mark) but as I pointed out earlier part of my problem is how you design a navigate system (that works on all devices) to navigate between them. I would be interested to hear of a solution as One of the first pages I would put back would be our About Page. It wasn't phony or at least I hope it wasn't it was just pictures of us our dogs and how we got here etc. Our blogs tell a story of what we are now up to.

 

[JBloggs]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

.

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

Our old web page had almost 150 pages. The site ranked incredibly well until Penguin and Panda and then over the following years it starting slipping into oblivion. I therefore decided to change strategy altogether and instead of writing web pages for Google I would write them for possible guests. No guest ever needed 150 pages and obviously only a hand full ranked well. The new site has about 20 (plus tabs on pages). I would be more than happy to add more pages (maybe not up to the 150 mark) but as I pointed out earlier part of my problem is how you design a navigate system (that works on all devices) to navigate between them. I would be interested to hear of a solution as One of the first pages I would put back would be our About Page. It wasn't phony or at least I hope it wasn't it was just pictures of us our dogs and how we got here etc. Our blogs tell a story of what we are now up to.
.

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

Our old web page had almost 150 pages. The site ranked incredibly well until Penguin and Panda and then over the following years it starting slipping into oblivion. I therefore decided to change strategy altogether and instead of writing web pages for Google I would write them for possible guests. No guest ever needed 150 pages and obviously only a hand full ranked well. The new site has about 20 (plus tabs on pages). I would be more than happy to add more pages (maybe not up to the 150 mark) but as I pointed out earlier part of my problem is how you design a navigate system (that works on all devices) to navigate between them. I would be interested to hear of a solution as One of the first pages I would put back would be our About Page. It wasn't phony or at least I hope it wasn't it was just pictures of us our dogs and how we got here etc. Our blogs tell a story of what we are now up to.

Blogging is great for that!
I need to go look at your site. 150 pages, yes that is massive. You do have to maintain all of that, broken links, etc. If you blog, and have the link handy I think that is perfect. I understand not wanting to put too much out there that interferes with navigation.
Okay I remember now, and the dogs on the main page also share who you are (and then their blog). Dogs speak volumes. Aren't they wonderful.
Ignore all the rest, I know I am staying with fun people when I see the dogs.

 

[Morticia]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

.

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks.

I think this is all too calculated. We are in the people business. You should never have to cull pages from your website. I don't understand this at all. if they are quality pages, then add more, not less.
If you are only putting it on there to give it a more human feel and it is phony, then it will speak for itself.
There is not public vote. I am flabbergasted. Yes, me flabbergasted, so flabbergasted I had to type it three times.

Our old web page had almost 150 pages. The site ranked incredibly well until Penguin and Panda and then over the following years it starting slipping into oblivion. I therefore decided to change strategy altogether and instead of writing web pages for Google I would write them for possible guests. No guest ever needed 150 pages and obviously only a hand full ranked well. The new site has about 20 (plus tabs on pages). I would be more than happy to add more pages (maybe not up to the 150 mark) but as I pointed out earlier part of my problem is how you design a navigate system (that works on all devices) to navigate between them. I would be interested to hear of a solution as One of the first pages I would put back would be our About Page. It wasn't phony or at least I hope it wasn't it was just pictures of us our dogs and how we got here etc. Our blogs tell a story of what we are now up to.
.

When I redid my site it went from 70+ pages down to around 40. I combined a lot of pages into one long page that is really just there for the keywords.
People search on the oddest things!

 

[swaapc]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
.

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.

There are a number of reasons for this:
1) Design gurus tell me you can't have three deep navigation menus any longer and I couldn't find any good Bootstrap navigation code that supported 3 deep navigation. So you have to either be very clever (I am not) or start using tabs which I did.
2) and this is the bigy - you can't really have more than 10 navigation items. Well you can but in a responsive design it all starts becoming a bit iffy as to whether the user can see all these items on all devices (Mobile Android being the biggest problem). I think I worked out (just by experimenting) that the optimum is about 8 items. I have used 10 with the least important to the far right hand side (or bottom of the stack for mobile) and just assume a % of people will never see them.
I am sure there are ways round these problems but I couldn't find it without a lot of work. I would be very interest if someone has a solution to this as there are a number of navigation items I would love to add.
.

Why not add a page about yourselves, for those who don't read the blog, under misc?
My about page is rarely viewed. It's there for those people who need this info. It's different for a B&B. They're in my house. I'm feeding them. They want to get a look at me. Hate to say it, but to judge my character.
Do I look like someone they might want to spend time with? Reliable? Clean? Am I drinking, smoking, dressed oddly? (Oddly being open to interpretation.) Who else lives here? Am I married?
Mostly, tho, I think the question is: do I look like them? If I don't, can they deal with it?
BTW, I rarely look at about pages.
.

Why not add a page about yourselves, for those who don't read the blog, under misc?
My about page is rarely viewed. It's there for those people who need this info. It's different for a B&B. They're in my house. I'm feeding them. They want to get a look at me. Hate to say it, but to judge my character.
Do I look like someone they might want to spend time with? Reliable? Clean? Am I drinking, smoking, dressed oddly? (Oddly being open to interpretation.) Who else lives here? Am I married?
Mostly, tho, I think the question is: do I look like them? If I don't, can they deal with it?
BTW, I rarely look at about pages.

Yes thanks your right, I could add it under misc although of cause that is one of the navigation items that virtually disappears for small screen users. I will add it to my to do list .

 

[Lee2014]

See I am a bit wary of this as we are a younger couple 32 and 29 respectively - I worry as I get enough people who can't believe I am the owner or can possibly manage etc without putting them off already -
What do people think?.

How about a picture of the bunnies?
.

If I could just get the jiggers to stand still for more than 2 seconds that would be super
Believe me the "where is your mother dear?" etc wears a bit thin!
.

If I could just get the jiggers to stand still for more than 2 seconds that would be super
Believe me the "where is your mother dear?" etc wears a bit thin!

Wait until you are in your upper thirties/forties! You'll love it then! I have young looks on both side of my family. My sister was given a child's menu at a restaurant two months before her wedding at 21. The poor waitress was so embarrass, we got a laugh out of that.

 

[Copperhead]

See I am a bit wary of this as we are a younger couple 32 and 29 respectively - I worry as I get enough people who can't believe I am the owner or can possibly manage etc without putting them off already -
What do people think?.

How about a picture of the bunnies?
.

If I could just get the jiggers to stand still for more than 2 seconds that would be super
Believe me the "where is your mother dear?" etc wears a bit thin!
.

If I could just get the jiggers to stand still for more than 2 seconds that would be super
Believe me the "where is your mother dear?" etc wears a bit thin!

Then again it can be GREAT when a salesman comes to the door and asks if your Mom is home. My (then) teen-aged daughter heard me tell them NO and I closed the door. Those were the days!

 

[OnTheShore]

What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
.

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.

There are a number of reasons for this:
1) Design gurus tell me you can't have three deep navigation menus any longer and I couldn't find any good Bootstrap navigation code that supported 3 deep navigation. So you have to either be very clever (I am not) or start using tabs which I did.
2) and this is the bigy - you can't really have more than 10 navigation items. Well you can but in a responsive design it all starts becoming a bit iffy as to whether the user can see all these items on all devices (Mobile Android being the biggest problem). I think I worked out (just by experimenting) that the optimum is about 8 items. I have used 10 with the least important to the far right hand side (or bottom of the stack for mobile) and just assume a % of people will never see them.
I am sure there are ways round these problems but I couldn't find it without a lot of work. I would be very interest if someone has a solution to this as there are a number of navigation items I would love to add.
.

Why not add a page about yourselves, for those who don't read the blog, under misc?
My about page is rarely viewed. It's there for those people who need this info. It's different for a B&B. They're in my house. I'm feeding them. They want to get a look at me. Hate to say it, but to judge my character.
Do I look like someone they might want to spend time with? Reliable? Clean? Am I drinking, smoking, dressed oddly? (Oddly being open to interpretation.) Who else lives here? Am I married?
Mostly, tho, I think the question is: do I look like them? If I don't, can they deal with it?
BTW, I rarely look at about pages.
.

Why not add a page about yourselves, for those who don't read the blog, under misc?
My about page is rarely viewed. It's there for those people who need this info. It's different for a B&B. They're in my house. I'm feeding them. They want to get a look at me. Hate to say it, but to judge my character.
Do I look like someone they might want to spend time with? Reliable? Clean? Am I drinking, smoking, dressed oddly? (Oddly being open to interpretation.) Who else lives here? Am I married?
Mostly, tho, I think the question is: do I look like them? If I don't, can they deal with it?
BTW, I rarely look at about pages.

Yes thanks your right, I could add it under misc although of cause that is one of the navigation items that virtually disappears for small screen users. I will add it to my to do list .
.

FWIW, I just wanted to suggest that I don't think it is necessary to have every single page that is on your site be directly accessible from your main navigation menu.
For example, each time we send out a newsletter, I post a copy on our website on it's own page. But each issue of the newsletter is not accessible from within our main navigation menu, rather there is just a link to "newsletters" that takes you to an index page for the collection...
BTW, I totally agree with your approach of writing your website for people rather than for robots. In fact that is what Google has always been trying to get webmasters to do! That said, there really is no limit on the number of pages. If you have a lot of content that might be useful to people, I would not hesitate to post it, whether that results in 40 pages or 140. Obviously the trick comes in how you organize, index, and present that information. Design a navigation menu system that works for the devices you are aiming to serve, but like I suggested, I wouldn't let that constrain me in the amount of useful information I put on my site (rather I would consider alternative ways of indexing and accessing that information, even if they are outside my main navigation system).

 

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What evidence do you have of the need for this.
Our old web site had a very prominent 'About us' page and was rarely looked at. When it came to rewriting our site and culling vast number of pages we had it was one of those that had to go. It was there originally as I thought it gave the business more of a human feel but the public voted with their clicks..

Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.
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Why did it "have" to go?
It takes virtually no extra resources, and while it may be true that few people looked at, perhaps it swayed the one or two who did look at it to book with you.

There are a number of reasons for this:
1) Design gurus tell me you can't have three deep navigation menus any longer and I couldn't find any good Bootstrap navigation code that supported 3 deep navigation. So you have to either be very clever (I am not) or start using tabs which I did.
2) and this is the bigy - you can't really have more than 10 navigation items. Well you can but in a responsive design it all starts becoming a bit iffy as to whether the user can see all these items on all devices (Mobile Android being the biggest problem). I think I worked out (just by experimenting) that the optimum is about 8 items. I have used 10 with the least important to the far right hand side (or bottom of the stack for mobile) and just assume a % of people will never see them.
I am sure there are ways round these problems but I couldn't find it without a lot of work. I would be very interest if someone has a solution to this as there are a number of navigation items I would love to add.
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Why not add a page about yourselves, for those who don't read the blog, under misc?
My about page is rarely viewed. It's there for those people who need this info. It's different for a B&B. They're in my house. I'm feeding them. They want to get a look at me. Hate to say it, but to judge my character.
Do I look like someone they might want to spend time with? Reliable? Clean? Am I drinking, smoking, dressed oddly? (Oddly being open to interpretation.) Who else lives here? Am I married?
Mostly, tho, I think the question is: do I look like them? If I don't, can they deal with it?
BTW, I rarely look at about pages.
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Why not add a page about yourselves, for those who don't read the blog, under misc?
My about page is rarely viewed. It's there for those people who need this info. It's different for a B&B. They're in my house. I'm feeding them. They want to get a look at me. Hate to say it, but to judge my character.
Do I look like someone they might want to spend time with? Reliable? Clean? Am I drinking, smoking, dressed oddly? (Oddly being open to interpretation.) Who else lives here? Am I married?
Mostly, tho, I think the question is: do I look like them? If I don't, can they deal with it?
BTW, I rarely look at about pages.

Yes thanks your right, I could add it under misc although of cause that is one of the navigation items that virtually disappears for small screen users. I will add it to my to do list .
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FWIW, I just wanted to suggest that I don't think it is necessary to have every single page that is on your site be directly accessible from your main navigation menu.
For example, each time we send out a newsletter, I post a copy on our website on it's own page. But each issue of the newsletter is not accessible from within our main navigation menu, rather there is just a link to "newsletters" that takes you to an index page for the collection...
BTW, I totally agree with your approach of writing your website for people rather than for robots. In fact that is what Google has always been trying to get webmasters to do! That said, there really is no limit on the number of pages. If you have a lot of content that might be useful to people, I would not hesitate to post it, whether that results in 40 pages or 140. Obviously the trick comes in how you organize, index, and present that information. Design a navigation menu system that works for the devices you are aiming to serve, but like I suggested, I wouldn't let that constrain me in the amount of useful information I put on my site (rather I would consider alternative ways of indexing and accessing that information, even if they are outside my main navigation system).
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I agree Harbor, everything does not have to drop down and be found from the main menu. You can have links all over your pages. Not everything important enough to be on top. Sitemap helps as well. Put as much information out there as you want, someone will find it.