This was a reply to Trishny, but her post has disappeared...
It would not be up to me to recommend you. We are not in your SR region (our states are VA, WV, DE and MD), and I have never stayed at your B&B. If you are really interested I would talk to a nearby SR inn - the Mill House Inn in East Hampton is the only one close to you. It's not that easy to get accepted - there are several inns in VA who applied this year who didn't make it. You would need the support of a member inn in your region to get in, in my opinion..
Muirford -- Thank you so much! Sooooo, if we got accepted at "Select Registry", would that be the "icing on the cake"!! ?
Really, what do you think ?
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Really, what I think (and I've said this in two previous posts) - you are not qualified to be in Select Registry. There are several requirements you don't meet. Period, end of my input on the matter. If you want to pursue it further, do your research and figure it out.
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Muirford -- you sound like the Dean of Disipline of Select Registry., lol!!! Are they paying you "???
I'll let you know when we are accepted.
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TrishaNY, You asked what she thought. She quoted the rules 3 times. You continued to ask what she thought, and she specifically said that it was not up to her and continued to quote the rules. You didn't like the content of her answers and are going out of your way to feel slighted.
You seem to be trolling for a disagreement. Knock it off, or we are done here.
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Swirt, the rules quoted are very incorrect. One innkeeper cannot ASSURE another that they don't qualify or that they don't meet requirements to join a certain group.
when the content of the answer was questionned by me, the result was very distasteful postings. And I know you don't agree with unresearched postings that are posted as fact.
I'm not just disagreeing, I'm saying the answer was wrong.
Can't knock off free speech.
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TrishaNY knock it off! Muirford is able to read and quote with the best of us. Just because you seem to have selective reading is no need to go saying things like "the rules quoted are very incorrect."
Taken directly from
http://www.selectregistry.com/application/default.aspx
Criteria #5 The property should have been in operation for a minimum of two years at the time of application THIS IS NOT YOU. In one more year, this could be you.
Criteria #6 The owner/operator or innkeeper should have at least three years of documented lodging management experience. THIS IS NOT YOU. In two more years time, it could be you.
Notice that there is no criteria #8 that says if you were written up in a local magazine you get an automatic pass to skip #5 and #6.
Muirford was trying to save you $1500 in application fees ($3000 application fee - the $1500 refundable portion they give back when your application is denied because you missed 2 out of 7 of the criteria). IF you want to persist with the assumption that they will make an exception to the criteria because you were written up in a local magazine, by all means, send them the check and start the process. Let us know how it turns out.
Please keep in mind that it is very easy to misread the tone of a response. I think you completely misread Muriford's tone if you think her original responses to your questions were distasteful. Just so there are no misunderstandings, my tone right now, should not be read as happy. If you want to test your theory of "Can't knock off free speech", continue with your tone of accusing other members of not knowing their facts. You can say what you want, but that does not mean I have to provide you the platform to say it.
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Swirt, It's very simple -- members who don't know their facts should make a phone call. Do you think I'm making this up?!! SR CHANGED THEIR RULES. Being in four magazines (not one) has nothing to do with it at all.
But your answer is to banish the one who made you feel "slighted"?
And maybe, rename the site -- DON'T Chat, DON'T Vent, DON'T disagree with members, DON'T tell any member they're wrong when they are.
Don't "misread" anyone's "tone"?. Tone?!! There are typed words -- no chance of "misreading".
If this is the type of forum you want to run, then so be it.
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Trisha,
Try to put yourself in other's shoes... they're here, been running their inns a long time, know a lot about what they're doing, and deserve our respect. Muirford spent a lot of money, went through a lot of hassle, and spent a lot of time to be part of Select Registry. You come on saying, "what is this?" She took the time to tell you what it was. You were immediately off and running with, "I'll join it, too!" But according to the rules she joined by, and the rules posted on the website, you were ineligible. It wasn't anything personal, it was the facts as she understood them. After three times of trying to tell you that, everyone started to get frustrated and you got a warning from the site moderator. To which you replied:
trishany said:
Swirt, the rules quoted are very incorrect.
But you didn't give the new rules, or your source. So all anyone sees is an argument without any substance. Your post continued,
trishany said:
One innkeeper cannot ASSURE another that they don't qualify or that they don't meet requirements to join a certain group.
But this is exactly what you are doing to Muirford... assuring her that you DO qualify. She's in the group, has passed the test. If you can ASSURE her you can join, she can ASSURE you that you can't.
trishana said:
when the content of the answer was questionned by me, the result was very distasteful postings. And I know you don't agree with unresearched postings that are posted as fact.
You questioned it at least three times. That gets annoying. After so much questioning it was clear you blithely refused to believe Muirford knew what she was talking about even though she's actually a member of the group and as such is intimately familiar with the requirements she had to fulfill to join. The information on the website agreed with Muirford, lending even more weight to her argument. Your continuing to refuse to believe her or accept her answer was annoying at least, and rude in general. Posters on forums aren't usually very patient with being annoyed. That's why you started to get some distasteful postings.
Your post continued:
Trishany said:
I'm not just disagreeing, I'm saying the answer was wrong.
What is your evidence that her answer was wrong? She's a member and the website backs her up! If you are going to say she's wrong, then you need to present your evidence, not make a general accusation.
You finished your post with:
Trishany said:
Can't knock off free speech.
Speech here isn't free. Someone has to pay to maintain this website. Someone has to moderate it to keep spammers from posting X-rated crap and porn. There are Terms of Use which say, basically, be respectful. You can't just come on here and blast people as liars without giving your evidence.
So, finally, your most recent post says:
trishany said:
Swirt, It's very simple -- members who don't know their facts should make a phone call. Do you think I'm making this up?!! SR CHANGED THEIR RULES.
After all these posts, this is the first time you have informed us of the change. How would anyone know that? Muirford knows what she had to do to join, and we all can see what the website says. Why would we make a phone call? If you did, then you need to give us this evidence to support your position.
trishany said:
Being in four magazines (not one) has nothing to do with it at all. But your answer is to banish the one who made you feel "slighted"?
I agree that the magazines are not part of the argument. You might want to be aware that many innkeepers here have been in many magazines as well. You have the right to believe yourself to be the best B&B on the planet, but you should allow other innkeepers to have a high view of their own B&B as well. I don't think you slighted Swirt, or that he felt slighted. You have, however, persisted in questioning others to the point of rudeness, and generally stirring up frustration. As site owner Swirt hears from others, and does his best to keep the peace. It's his job to warn you to be nice. If you aren't "nice" then it's his job to ban you from the site, even if he himself doesn't feel slighted or annoyed.
trishany said:
And maybe, rename the site -- DON'T Chat, DON'T Vent, DON'T disagree with members, DON'T tell any member they're wrong when they are.
Don't "misread" anyone's "tone"?. Tone?!! There are typed words -- no chance of "misreading".
Look at what you typed above. Remember that ALL CAPS is the equivalent of screaming on the internet. So what you've written above has a lot of screaming. And where you have "Tone?!!" is the equivalent of indignation. There is a LOT of tone in your post. Swirt was trying to give you an "out." To say, "Oh, I must have misunderstood the tone of the posts to me."
It's "Chat, Vent, Laugh, Cry" not "Chat, Vent, Disagree, Disrespect." You can chat all day. You can vent all day. You can even disagree.... as long as you do it respectfully. If you're going to say Muirford is wrong, then you need to give evidence of why you say so. Muirford gave her evidence, you called her a liar. Who is a third party reading this thread going to support? If you want people to believe you, support your arguments.
trishany said:
If this is the type of forum you want to run, then so be it.
Again, here is a lot of tone. Swirt's just trying to keep the peace. I'd still like to see these new rules for SR... maybe I qualify now, too! All anyone is doing is asking you to take the time to support your claims, and be respectful of the innkeepers here who have been doing this for years and years.
That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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