Kids (as guests) & inns

[Morticia]

Gosh, where to start...
We take kids, all ages. Partly because we have twin sons (the ds5x2). So when we were planning our B&B, we figured romantic getaway was not our niche.
We get quite a few kids, especially traveling in the summer. We recommend them to take the third floor room with the futon (and room for a fold out bed), and they love it up there. We have also put the fold out bed in the first floor room. We have four rooms and none of them share walls (well, the two on the second floor have adjacent bathrooms) so sound proofing is not a big issue. [Kids have also stayed in our room with two twin beds.]
We make it quite clear on our website that we have kids, and sometimes I even do a verbal disclaimer when taking a reservation on the phone. If the presence of children is a problem, then people can self select to stay at one of the other B&B's in town (all lovely, none take kids). Ironically, we get a lot of people who come anyway, including honeymoon night stays and getaway couples... other amenities of ours win them, I guess. And many, many guests have said, "Not my kids, not my problem!" (It helps that mine are cute, and well-behaved... people enjoy them a lot.) But I, too, when in public, am less bothered by other kids than my own's behavior!
I do offer other guests in the house to eat separately from the family if they prefer... in their room, on the patio, different time... but so far they've said, no, they'd prefer to eat with the family.
We have two high chairs, two booster seats, a diaper bucket, and a pack and play. We also have baby gates. (For that matter, we have shower chairs, bath tub rails and items for the more elderly crowd as well!) We do no child proofing beyond giving the baby a plastic cup for breakfast.
As a mom who traveled with kids, I would take a B&B over a hotel any day. When they were babies I hated staying in hotels... the only interesting thing in the room was the toilet paper, and there was nothing on TV. At a B&B they can go to the back yard, or watch a video, or simply feel more at home. When they were babies I wasn't getting in the pool with them. And when we travel now, we generally travel with a purpose (wedding, etc.) so we're not hanging around the hotel pool. All that to say that a hotel pool is fine if you're spending a lot of time at the hotel (like on vacation at a resort) but most of our guests with children have been here briefly then on to their wedding/ reunion/ other activity.
The excuse "our inn is not child proofed" always makes me laugh. It means to me... we don't want kids here (which is fine...). Child proofing only applies to babies who put things in their mouths or fingers in electrical outlets, or fall down stairs, generally 2 and under. At that age the moms have to watch them like a hawk anyway. After 3 or so, none of that matters anymore.
Most of the kids who have stayed here have been well behaved and fine. It helps that our boys take them in hand, or take them out to the back yard to play. The ones we had recently were the worst so far, and only because one was a bit noisy... when she was here, which was rarely. One of the other guests said the next morning, "I heard your kids last night, but they didn't bother me at all." Not my kids! We weren't even home!
And I've read comments about how can the parents relax when they take their kids to a B&B? ... always having to watch that the kids aren't touching, breaking, yelling, etc. Well, that's our (we mom's) reality wherever we go. This same family, when departing, expressed how grateful they were for the relaxing time. This from the mom who spent her entire stay chasing with the baby and shushing the preschooler. It WAS relaxing compared to being at home! She didn't have to cook or clean!
All that to say that taking kids is a viable niche, and there's definitely a market. I even had a mom who said, "I can't wait to tell my husband where we're going to stay!"
As far as policies, and handling of kids... well, being a mom is a useful thing. As you mentioned, other parents don't like people interfering with their children. On the other hand... your house, you're the boss. The mommy voice (as well as the mommy look) goes a LONG way, and I'm not afraid to use it (actually, I've used it on adults...). If you are respectful to the parents, but also firm with your boundaries, it can be fine.
Our policies re children state:
Children: We love children, and our twin sons (age 5-1/2) will be happy to welcome yours! Let us know the ages of your children when making your reservation and we will make every effort to accommodate them and you in comfort. Please be considerate of other guests and help your children to behave appropriately in a bed and breakfast environment. Also, please do not leave your children unsupervised at any time.
We charge an extra person charge of $25 per night for anyone over 10. I waive it sometimes... but not if someone asks me to!! (Learned that one the hard way...) Mostly the charge covers the hassle of setting up the extra bed and taking it back down again.
We make towel elephants (like they do on the cruise lines) and put them on the extra bed. Sometimes the kid is older (last night's was a 17 year old girl) but we do it anyway... it's fun even if they're too cool to admit it.
So, don't be afraid of the niche... it can be a very good one. I'll clean kid mess over pet mess any day, while plenty of other innkeepers are the other way around. To each his own! We have kids, we like kids, we take kids, and we haven't regretted it so far.
=)
Kk..

Child proofing doesn't only apply to protecting the child from hazards, but also to valuables items belonging to the innkeeper that a child could easily get a hold of and break or damage. I have a coffee table with a glass top that just sits on the base, a mountain lion sculpture, the top isn't attached in any way. Probably because of its height children almost always try to sit on this table which puts the kid and the glass top on the floor. The glass is very sturdy and hasn't broken, but the mountain lion has several battle scars from kid encounters. No child has ever been injured, but you wouldn't know it from the crying that sometimes ensues. And, if they were hurt it would be called an "attractive nuisance" and I would probably be held responsible and be liable for damages. I like my table and don't want to get rid of it, but it among other things is why my house isn't childproof. I also have some art objects that parents wouldn't like to find on their bill if their child caused them to become broken. I've thought about putting a few items out of the way when children are around, but again I don't want to have things that I like and that my guests enjoy seeing put away to avoid possible damage by little hands. Consequently I'm sometimes nervous when kids who don't have responsible parents with them are here; not having a childproof environment is not an excuse, it can be a reality. The only saving grace is that I usually only have to endure such, "hold your breath moments" for one or maybe two days - or nights I'm also aware that adults could accidentally break something, but the possibility is much less than with kids who have to touch everything.
Here is a question. I have had at least four guests show up at the door with small children in tow that I didn't know were coming. I guess it's my fault that I didn't specifically ask, but when I'm speaking to a potential guest on the phone and they talk only about coming with wife or husband or significant other I assume if children were also coming they would tell me. I've learned several times that isn't necessarily the case. The strangest being a young couple who came on their wedding night, she's wearing her wedding gown and carrying a 4 or 5 month old baby. I thought, "Gee, couldn't grandma take care of the baby this one night"? So, short of asking people when they make a reservation, what can I do to avoid kids not accounted for when reservation is made? And, when they are standing at the door, a complete surprise to me, what then? That's a very poor time to explain my policies to guests, so of course I let them stay.
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As far as guests who show up at the door with extra people in tow (child or adult), if the room they selected is a 2 person room I will try to move them to a 3 person room. If that can't happen I tell them I will help them find other accommodations and should they find themselves in the position of having to bring an extra guest 'at the last minute' it is always best to check with the B&B first. And I charge for the extra person right there at the door.
Most of the time I've had guests show up with an extra person when their room allows it. But I did have one group of women show up with 6 guests for a suite that only holds 5. They blithely told me the 6th person would sleep on the floor. I told them (not so blithely) that that would not be happening. So, I moved them to a different room, charged for the extra person AND removed their discount because they no longer had the suite. (And it did not help that they showed up en masse 2 hours early demanding to be let in to use a bathroom.)

 

[Morticia]

Gosh, where to start...
We take kids, all ages. Partly because we have twin sons (the ds5x2). So when we were planning our B&B, we figured romantic getaway was not our niche.
We get quite a few kids, especially traveling in the summer. We recommend them to take the third floor room with the futon (and room for a fold out bed), and they love it up there. We have also put the fold out bed in the first floor room. We have four rooms and none of them share walls (well, the two on the second floor have adjacent bathrooms) so sound proofing is not a big issue. [Kids have also stayed in our room with two twin beds.]
We make it quite clear on our website that we have kids, and sometimes I even do a verbal disclaimer when taking a reservation on the phone. If the presence of children is a problem, then people can self select to stay at one of the other B&B's in town (all lovely, none take kids). Ironically, we get a lot of people who come anyway, including honeymoon night stays and getaway couples... other amenities of ours win them, I guess. And many, many guests have said, "Not my kids, not my problem!" (It helps that mine are cute, and well-behaved... people enjoy them a lot.) But I, too, when in public, am less bothered by other kids than my own's behavior!
I do offer other guests in the house to eat separately from the family if they prefer... in their room, on the patio, different time... but so far they've said, no, they'd prefer to eat with the family.
We have two high chairs, two booster seats, a diaper bucket, and a pack and play. We also have baby gates. (For that matter, we have shower chairs, bath tub rails and items for the more elderly crowd as well!) We do no child proofing beyond giving the baby a plastic cup for breakfast.
As a mom who traveled with kids, I would take a B&B over a hotel any day. When they were babies I hated staying in hotels... the only interesting thing in the room was the toilet paper, and there was nothing on TV. At a B&B they can go to the back yard, or watch a video, or simply feel more at home. When they were babies I wasn't getting in the pool with them. And when we travel now, we generally travel with a purpose (wedding, etc.) so we're not hanging around the hotel pool. All that to say that a hotel pool is fine if you're spending a lot of time at the hotel (like on vacation at a resort) but most of our guests with children have been here briefly then on to their wedding/ reunion/ other activity.
The excuse "our inn is not child proofed" always makes me laugh. It means to me... we don't want kids here (which is fine...). Child proofing only applies to babies who put things in their mouths or fingers in electrical outlets, or fall down stairs, generally 2 and under. At that age the moms have to watch them like a hawk anyway. After 3 or so, none of that matters anymore.
Most of the kids who have stayed here have been well behaved and fine. It helps that our boys take them in hand, or take them out to the back yard to play. The ones we had recently were the worst so far, and only because one was a bit noisy... when she was here, which was rarely. One of the other guests said the next morning, "I heard your kids last night, but they didn't bother me at all." Not my kids! We weren't even home!
And I've read comments about how can the parents relax when they take their kids to a B&B? ... always having to watch that the kids aren't touching, breaking, yelling, etc. Well, that's our (we mom's) reality wherever we go. This same family, when departing, expressed how grateful they were for the relaxing time. This from the mom who spent her entire stay chasing with the baby and shushing the preschooler. It WAS relaxing compared to being at home! She didn't have to cook or clean!
All that to say that taking kids is a viable niche, and there's definitely a market. I even had a mom who said, "I can't wait to tell my husband where we're going to stay!"
As far as policies, and handling of kids... well, being a mom is a useful thing. As you mentioned, other parents don't like people interfering with their children. On the other hand... your house, you're the boss. The mommy voice (as well as the mommy look) goes a LONG way, and I'm not afraid to use it (actually, I've used it on adults...). If you are respectful to the parents, but also firm with your boundaries, it can be fine.
Our policies re children state:
Children: We love children, and our twin sons (age 5-1/2) will be happy to welcome yours! Let us know the ages of your children when making your reservation and we will make every effort to accommodate them and you in comfort. Please be considerate of other guests and help your children to behave appropriately in a bed and breakfast environment. Also, please do not leave your children unsupervised at any time.
We charge an extra person charge of $25 per night for anyone over 10. I waive it sometimes... but not if someone asks me to!! (Learned that one the hard way...) Mostly the charge covers the hassle of setting up the extra bed and taking it back down again.
We make towel elephants (like they do on the cruise lines) and put them on the extra bed. Sometimes the kid is older (last night's was a 17 year old girl) but we do it anyway... it's fun even if they're too cool to admit it.
So, don't be afraid of the niche... it can be a very good one. I'll clean kid mess over pet mess any day, while plenty of other innkeepers are the other way around. To each his own! We have kids, we like kids, we take kids, and we haven't regretted it so far.
=)
Kk..

Gosh, where to start...
The excuse "our inn is not child proofed" always makes me laugh. It means to me... we don't want kids here (which is fine...). Child proofing only applies to babies who put things in their mouths or fingers in electrical outlets, or fall down stairs, generally 2 and under. At that age the moms have to watch them like a hawk anyway. After 3 or so, none of that matters anymore.
=)
Kk.

That may make you laugh just like "our children are so well behaved you won't even know they are there" makes me laugh. I am sure you all have lovely kids, but when I go away I am not looking for an environment with kids. And the wine country here, with wine tasting, is not the environment that draws people who want to be around charming children. I know families love their kids, but sorry, we don't want to vacation with them. I reserve that for family reunions.
And sorry to say, many mothers don't "watch them like hawks" and I know so from other inns that have had to make them put shoes on outside, or keep them from falling in the fountains while the parents were enjoying themselves elsewhere.
We just like to hang out with grownups and that's the way our inn is set up. So yes, I tell people we are not childproof. It's to me a polite way to say we don't cater to children. I take my hat off to you who do, and haul out all the play toys and cots and cribs. I would not make enough money to justify all that extra work. I'd rather pour a glass of wine and make a cheese plate.
RIki
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I'd rather pour a glass of wine and make a cheese plate.
I'm coming to visit!

 

[gillumhouse]

Gosh, where to start...
We take kids, all ages. Partly because we have twin sons (the ds5x2). So when we were planning our B&B, we figured romantic getaway was not our niche.
We get quite a few kids, especially traveling in the summer. We recommend them to take the third floor room with the futon (and room for a fold out bed), and they love it up there. We have also put the fold out bed in the first floor room. We have four rooms and none of them share walls (well, the two on the second floor have adjacent bathrooms) so sound proofing is not a big issue. [Kids have also stayed in our room with two twin beds.]
We make it quite clear on our website that we have kids, and sometimes I even do a verbal disclaimer when taking a reservation on the phone. If the presence of children is a problem, then people can self select to stay at one of the other B&B's in town (all lovely, none take kids). Ironically, we get a lot of people who come anyway, including honeymoon night stays and getaway couples... other amenities of ours win them, I guess. And many, many guests have said, "Not my kids, not my problem!" (It helps that mine are cute, and well-behaved... people enjoy them a lot.) But I, too, when in public, am less bothered by other kids than my own's behavior!
I do offer other guests in the house to eat separately from the family if they prefer... in their room, on the patio, different time... but so far they've said, no, they'd prefer to eat with the family.
We have two high chairs, two booster seats, a diaper bucket, and a pack and play. We also have baby gates. (For that matter, we have shower chairs, bath tub rails and items for the more elderly crowd as well!) We do no child proofing beyond giving the baby a plastic cup for breakfast.
As a mom who traveled with kids, I would take a B&B over a hotel any day. When they were babies I hated staying in hotels... the only interesting thing in the room was the toilet paper, and there was nothing on TV. At a B&B they can go to the back yard, or watch a video, or simply feel more at home. When they were babies I wasn't getting in the pool with them. And when we travel now, we generally travel with a purpose (wedding, etc.) so we're not hanging around the hotel pool. All that to say that a hotel pool is fine if you're spending a lot of time at the hotel (like on vacation at a resort) but most of our guests with children have been here briefly then on to their wedding/ reunion/ other activity.
The excuse "our inn is not child proofed" always makes me laugh. It means to me... we don't want kids here (which is fine...). Child proofing only applies to babies who put things in their mouths or fingers in electrical outlets, or fall down stairs, generally 2 and under. At that age the moms have to watch them like a hawk anyway. After 3 or so, none of that matters anymore.
Most of the kids who have stayed here have been well behaved and fine. It helps that our boys take them in hand, or take them out to the back yard to play. The ones we had recently were the worst so far, and only because one was a bit noisy... when she was here, which was rarely. One of the other guests said the next morning, "I heard your kids last night, but they didn't bother me at all." Not my kids! We weren't even home!
And I've read comments about how can the parents relax when they take their kids to a B&B? ... always having to watch that the kids aren't touching, breaking, yelling, etc. Well, that's our (we mom's) reality wherever we go. This same family, when departing, expressed how grateful they were for the relaxing time. This from the mom who spent her entire stay chasing with the baby and shushing the preschooler. It WAS relaxing compared to being at home! She didn't have to cook or clean!
All that to say that taking kids is a viable niche, and there's definitely a market. I even had a mom who said, "I can't wait to tell my husband where we're going to stay!"
As far as policies, and handling of kids... well, being a mom is a useful thing. As you mentioned, other parents don't like people interfering with their children. On the other hand... your house, you're the boss. The mommy voice (as well as the mommy look) goes a LONG way, and I'm not afraid to use it (actually, I've used it on adults...). If you are respectful to the parents, but also firm with your boundaries, it can be fine.
Our policies re children state:
Children: We love children, and our twin sons (age 5-1/2) will be happy to welcome yours! Let us know the ages of your children when making your reservation and we will make every effort to accommodate them and you in comfort. Please be considerate of other guests and help your children to behave appropriately in a bed and breakfast environment. Also, please do not leave your children unsupervised at any time.
We charge an extra person charge of $25 per night for anyone over 10. I waive it sometimes... but not if someone asks me to!! (Learned that one the hard way...) Mostly the charge covers the hassle of setting up the extra bed and taking it back down again.
We make towel elephants (like they do on the cruise lines) and put them on the extra bed. Sometimes the kid is older (last night's was a 17 year old girl) but we do it anyway... it's fun even if they're too cool to admit it.
So, don't be afraid of the niche... it can be a very good one. I'll clean kid mess over pet mess any day, while plenty of other innkeepers are the other way around. To each his own! We have kids, we like kids, we take kids, and we haven't regretted it so far.
=)
Kk..

Gosh, where to start...
The excuse "our inn is not child proofed" always makes me laugh. It means to me... we don't want kids here (which is fine...). Child proofing only applies to babies who put things in their mouths or fingers in electrical outlets, or fall down stairs, generally 2 and under. At that age the moms have to watch them like a hawk anyway. After 3 or so, none of that matters anymore.
=)
Kk.

That may make you laugh just like "our children are so well behaved you won't even know they are there" makes me laugh. I am sure you all have lovely kids, but when I go away I am not looking for an environment with kids. And the wine country here, with wine tasting, is not the environment that draws people who want to be around charming children. I know families love their kids, but sorry, we don't want to vacation with them. I reserve that for family reunions.
And sorry to say, many mothers don't "watch them like hawks" and I know so from other inns that have had to make them put shoes on outside, or keep them from falling in the fountains while the parents were enjoying themselves elsewhere.
We just like to hang out with grownups and that's the way our inn is set up. So yes, I tell people we are not childproof. It's to me a polite way to say we don't cater to children. I take my hat off to you who do, and haul out all the play toys and cots and cribs. I would not make enough money to justify all that extra work. I'd rather pour a glass of wine and make a cheese plate.
RIki
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That is not to say we did anything other than the Victory Dance when the last one grew up. Ooops, started to say and moved out, but WE moved out and left him to deal with the house....

 

[egoodell]

Gosh, where to start...
We take kids, all ages. Partly because we have twin sons (the ds5x2). So when we were planning our B&B, we figured romantic getaway was not our niche.
We get quite a few kids, especially traveling in the summer. We recommend them to take the third floor room with the futon (and room for a fold out bed), and they love it up there. We have also put the fold out bed in the first floor room. We have four rooms and none of them share walls (well, the two on the second floor have adjacent bathrooms) so sound proofing is not a big issue. [Kids have also stayed in our room with two twin beds.]
We make it quite clear on our website that we have kids, and sometimes I even do a verbal disclaimer when taking a reservation on the phone. If the presence of children is a problem, then people can self select to stay at one of the other B&B's in town (all lovely, none take kids). Ironically, we get a lot of people who come anyway, including honeymoon night stays and getaway couples... other amenities of ours win them, I guess. And many, many guests have said, "Not my kids, not my problem!" (It helps that mine are cute, and well-behaved... people enjoy them a lot.) But I, too, when in public, am less bothered by other kids than my own's behavior!
I do offer other guests in the house to eat separately from the family if they prefer... in their room, on the patio, different time... but so far they've said, no, they'd prefer to eat with the family.
We have two high chairs, two booster seats, a diaper bucket, and a pack and play. We also have baby gates. (For that matter, we have shower chairs, bath tub rails and items for the more elderly crowd as well!) We do no child proofing beyond giving the baby a plastic cup for breakfast.
As a mom who traveled with kids, I would take a B&B over a hotel any day. When they were babies I hated staying in hotels... the only interesting thing in the room was the toilet paper, and there was nothing on TV. At a B&B they can go to the back yard, or watch a video, or simply feel more at home. When they were babies I wasn't getting in the pool with them. And when we travel now, we generally travel with a purpose (wedding, etc.) so we're not hanging around the hotel pool. All that to say that a hotel pool is fine if you're spending a lot of time at the hotel (like on vacation at a resort) but most of our guests with children have been here briefly then on to their wedding/ reunion/ other activity.
The excuse "our inn is not child proofed" always makes me laugh. It means to me... we don't want kids here (which is fine...). Child proofing only applies to babies who put things in their mouths or fingers in electrical outlets, or fall down stairs, generally 2 and under. At that age the moms have to watch them like a hawk anyway. After 3 or so, none of that matters anymore.
Most of the kids who have stayed here have been well behaved and fine. It helps that our boys take them in hand, or take them out to the back yard to play. The ones we had recently were the worst so far, and only because one was a bit noisy... when she was here, which was rarely. One of the other guests said the next morning, "I heard your kids last night, but they didn't bother me at all." Not my kids! We weren't even home!
And I've read comments about how can the parents relax when they take their kids to a B&B? ... always having to watch that the kids aren't touching, breaking, yelling, etc. Well, that's our (we mom's) reality wherever we go. This same family, when departing, expressed how grateful they were for the relaxing time. This from the mom who spent her entire stay chasing with the baby and shushing the preschooler. It WAS relaxing compared to being at home! She didn't have to cook or clean!
All that to say that taking kids is a viable niche, and there's definitely a market. I even had a mom who said, "I can't wait to tell my husband where we're going to stay!"
As far as policies, and handling of kids... well, being a mom is a useful thing. As you mentioned, other parents don't like people interfering with their children. On the other hand... your house, you're the boss. The mommy voice (as well as the mommy look) goes a LONG way, and I'm not afraid to use it (actually, I've used it on adults...). If you are respectful to the parents, but also firm with your boundaries, it can be fine.
Our policies re children state:
Children: We love children, and our twin sons (age 5-1/2) will be happy to welcome yours! Let us know the ages of your children when making your reservation and we will make every effort to accommodate them and you in comfort. Please be considerate of other guests and help your children to behave appropriately in a bed and breakfast environment. Also, please do not leave your children unsupervised at any time.
We charge an extra person charge of $25 per night for anyone over 10. I waive it sometimes... but not if someone asks me to!! (Learned that one the hard way...) Mostly the charge covers the hassle of setting up the extra bed and taking it back down again.
We make towel elephants (like they do on the cruise lines) and put them on the extra bed. Sometimes the kid is older (last night's was a 17 year old girl) but we do it anyway... it's fun even if they're too cool to admit it.
So, don't be afraid of the niche... it can be a very good one. I'll clean kid mess over pet mess any day, while plenty of other innkeepers are the other way around. To each his own! We have kids, we like kids, we take kids, and we haven't regretted it so far.
=)
Kk..

Gosh, where to start...
The excuse "our inn is not child proofed" always makes me laugh. It means to me... we don't want kids here (which is fine...). Child proofing only applies to babies who put things in their mouths or fingers in electrical outlets, or fall down stairs, generally 2 and under. At that age the moms have to watch them like a hawk anyway. After 3 or so, none of that matters anymore.
=)
Kk.

That may make you laugh just like "our children are so well behaved you won't even know they are there" makes me laugh. I am sure you all have lovely kids, but when I go away I am not looking for an environment with kids. And the wine country here, with wine tasting, is not the environment that draws people who want to be around charming children. I know families love their kids, but sorry, we don't want to vacation with them. I reserve that for family reunions.
And sorry to say, many mothers don't "watch them like hawks" and I know so from other inns that have had to make them put shoes on outside, or keep them from falling in the fountains while the parents were enjoying themselves elsewhere.
We just like to hang out with grownups and that's the way our inn is set up. So yes, I tell people we are not childproof. It's to me a polite way to say we don't cater to children. I take my hat off to you who do, and haul out all the play toys and cots and cribs. I would not make enough money to justify all that extra work. I'd rather pour a glass of wine and make a cheese plate.
RIki
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I'd rather pour a glass of wine and make a cheese plate.
I'm coming to visit!
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I'd rather pour a glass of wine and make a cheese plate.
I'm coming to visit!

I keep telling you to come on down here! Any of you are welcome anytime and if a wine tour's not full we'll toss you on along - you just pay your own tasting fees!
RIki