Welcome pack for guests (Feedback needed)

[charlie may]

How are you going to find/advertise to all the airbnb as in names and addresses?

 

[undersea]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

You are welcome to flag any spam content you see. Hit the flag button below the post and explain why you think it's spam. The forum owner (swirt) will review your complaint and take appropriate action.
He's the final arbiter.
He will let posts stand if he believes no harm, no foul.
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Hmm - had not noticed the "flag as offensive" link until now...

 

[Tom]

We try to cut back on waste. A box like that becomes trash even if the guest only uses ... the toothpaste, for example. Better to supply items as requested.
I am reminded of the British Air amenity pack they used to give: eye shade, towelettes, slipper socks, toothpaste, etc. I saved a bunch of them until a few years ago when I realized they were just taking up space - out.
But for your concept, a useful disposable we do offer is a disposable shower cap.

 

[Evan]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....

 

[Morticia]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

PLEASE change the name. For some grammatical reason only the nuns can explain I find your name awfully grating. (As I found the other name that went unmentioned.)
My 2 cents.

 

[anniesguesthouse]

We supply 30ml bottles of shampoo, shower gel and a shower cap. Our soap is in a dispenser. I think we pay about 17p per bottle for the small toiletries. When you say "box" the first thing I think of his "how big is it?" A B&B would go through a lot of those in a week eg we sleep 14 people per night and I tend to buy things in bulk so how would I store say 6 months worth of these boxes? An alternative might be some sort of wrapped parcel (shrink wrapped?) so guests know all the items were sanitary and include a face cloth. A lot of places supply those now. Some sort of branding would also be of interest as we know people take these items home with them. Oh and if you are aiming at the b&b market you might want to include a sewing kit as I'm sure these are still mandatory for Visit England's 4* and 5* properties. I think that is where you need to aim for with the prices you're talking about. I think they would be interested though so long as everything was in one bundle. Cotton buds and a nail file would also be expected at that end of the market too I think.

 

[undersea]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations

 

[Morticia]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations

Hold the phone!
Now you read what you just wrote out loud to yourself while rereading some of the comments you have made to others on the forum.
You repeatedly tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Us. The people with the skill set. The people who are not affirming some of your misguided ideas. The people you're still asking questions of. (And the people who are generously still answering.)
Ok, that was my laugh out loud for the day. I'm still chuckling. Too much.

 

[Arks]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations

Hold the phone!
Now you read what you just wrote out loud to yourself while rereading some of the comments you have made to others on the forum.
You repeatedly tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Us. The people with the skill set. The people who are not affirming some of your misguided ideas. The people you're still asking questions of. (And the people who are generously still answering.)
Ok, that was my laugh out loud for the day. I'm still chuckling. Too much.
.

(And the people who are generously still answering.)

That's the part I just don't get!

 

[gillumhouse]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
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I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations
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I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations

Hold the phone!
Now you read what you just wrote out loud to yourself while rereading some of the comments you have made to others on the forum.
You repeatedly tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Us. The people with the skill set. The people who are not affirming some of your misguided ideas. The people you're still asking questions of. (And the people who are generously still answering.)
Ok, that was my laugh out loud for the day. I'm still chuckling. Too much.
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(And the people who are generously still answering.)

That's the part I just don't get!
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Arks - we are only answering to set things straight for newbies and aspirings. Would no want them to think some of these comments are from people who KNOW about being an innmate.

 

[undersea]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations

Hold the phone!
Now you read what you just wrote out loud to yourself while rereading some of the comments you have made to others on the forum.
You repeatedly tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Us. The people with the skill set. The people who are not affirming some of your misguided ideas. The people you're still asking questions of. (And the people who are generously still answering.)
Ok, that was my laugh out loud for the day. I'm still chuckling. Too much.
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I don't tell people they don't know what they are talking about. If you think this, show examples
And I certainly don't seek "affirmations".

 

[JBloggs]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....

So how DO you pronounce it?

 

[Arks]

Hyacinth Bucket pronounces it bouquet.
https://youtu.be/51QjpoDZpi8

 

[Momma Smurf]

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported..

Noticing the occasional person who the same day they join, have a business idea. I believe this kind of thing should go through the forum as an advertiser? I notice it is ad supported.

A bit aggressive to the guy Undersea, people who have a business idea are doing it because they see a need and want to help their customers (us). Business isn't a bad thing.
And paying to advertise a non existent product idea? What are you thinking?
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.
.

I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan. Responses to someone who is seeking free publicity constantly follows my line. Forums exist on paid advertising, and there is a constant flow of people seeking to get puclicity for free. It is not much different for bandit signs that people put up on phone poles (we buy homes!), trying to fly under the radar.
And as said, perhaps if the person had participated for some time, but it was the standard many marketers do - get an ID, and get their potential offerings in front of others.

Yes this sort of thing happens here every week, many use their signature line as their link dropping, but really the person has nothing to peddle, that we know of, yet and nothing to contribute. So I think it is okay if they ask our opinion and we all say not a great idea.
On the other hand, many are fishing and then they do have something to peddle, we get those as well. Some use what we share here for books and columns and more. I prefer people to be upfront and honest, but that is just me, too many are underhanded and not good people in this world.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.
.

I was surprised Evan was responding, because I believe that is essentially what he did. He created an ID, and started digging for feedback on his template, which I am sure was not free.
There is seeking input for business ideas, but when websites are included, seeking "feedback" about a particular product/service, and there has been no mid to longterm participation by that person, I prefer the "if it smells fishy, it just may be." Advertorials are advertorials.

I think we all called him on it at first too. Mainly because the name was similar to another we were familiar with but a few letters changed. That is the same however, he was here to show his design to his market, and get some feedback, maybe, I don't think he will deny that.

Yes, Undersea was particularly vocal on my post for the feedback of the website template, thanks Undersea. And Undersea is correct that the website wont be free (when its ready). Undersea also quotes my name (which is real btw) What's your name Undersea?
I don't want to come over defensive but I can't let things slide when people attack
Actually apart from Undersea you guys seem pretty friendly around here, I try to help here and there where I know certain things but its mostly in technical things like websites, website conversions and booking engines and stuff.
I set up my name on purpose so you know who I am and what my business is, so there's no misconception of underhandedness, personally someone bringing a product to market that helps another business is a good thing.
Thanks for all that critical feedback everyone on the website template, it really helped me shape a better version.
The similar name thing you mentioned Joey, I know what you mean. Luckily they changed their name now so there no more confusion, I actually wanted bookit dot com but that's obviously been taken so I had to get a bit creative. I still have time to change the name as my products are not ready yet, also I found many people thinking its pronounced bucket or bewkit....
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations
.

I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. I asked professional questions and you basically started to weep. I have owned businesses. I do not think you should seek input if you instead want affirmations

Hold the phone!
Now you read what you just wrote out loud to yourself while rereading some of the comments you have made to others on the forum.
You repeatedly tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Us. The people with the skill set. The people who are not affirming some of your misguided ideas. The people you're still asking questions of. (And the people who are generously still answering.)
Ok, that was my laugh out loud for the day. I'm still chuckling. Too much.
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I don't tell people they don't know what they are talking about. If you think this, show examples
And I certainly don't seek "affirmations".
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Undersea wrote: I don't tell people they don't know what they are talking about. If you think this, show examples:
I have been on numerous forums over 20 years, Evan.
I am sorry, but website design is part of my skill set. ... I have owned businesses.
Yes, it is a matter of pride to quote your resume as Hospitality Management from a prestigious schools and degree in Psychology as if that has much meaning. I have a Master's in computer science from one of the prestigious schools in the field as well as a Bachelor's in Biology ... A few people think way too much of themselves, and try to push others around. Pride. Lack of humility. Self important. Self righteous.
Morticia wrote:
You repeatedly tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Us. The people with the skill set. The people who are not affirming some of your misguided ideas.
Momma Smurf wrote: Oh the hypocrisy! This is why Morticia and the other very wise folks on this forum with the relevant expertise and credentials are laughing.

 

[Morticia]

Hyacinth Bucket pronounces it bouquet.
https://youtu.be/51QjpoDZpi8.

I do love Hyacinth. And all her flowery sisters.

 

[Arks]

Poor Slumber Fox. Didn't realize a post on guest packs would turn into a hornet's nest!

 

[Breakfast Diva]

Poor Slumber Fox. Didn't realize a post on guest packs would turn into a hornet's nest!.

Poor Slumber Fox. Didn't realize a post on guest packs would turn into a hornet's nest!

Since 1/19/15 it seems that everything does. Funny coincidence, don't you think?

 

[Momma Smurf]

Poor Slumber Fox. Didn't realize a post on guest packs would turn into a hornet's nest!.

Just recently, seems that no matter the thread, it turns stingy! I do so respectfully miss the good ole days...

 

[Momma Smurf]

Poor Slumber Fox. Didn't realize a post on guest packs would turn into a hornet's nest!.

Poor Slumber Fox. Didn't realize a post on guest packs would turn into a hornet's nest!

Since 1/19/15 it seems that everything does. Funny coincidence, don't you think?
.

 

[Momma Smurf]

Poor Slumber Fox. Didn't realize a post on guest packs would turn into a hornet's nest!.

Seems just recently every thread has the potential to turn stingy... I do so respectfully miss the good ole days!